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answer. it's part of the problem. thanks for joining me in conversation this week on your money. you can also catch christine romans on your bottom line at 9:30 a.m. on saturday. stay connected on facebook and twitter. my twitter is ari velshi, and i read everything you post. have a great weekend. -- captions by vitac -- you're in the cnn news room where things unfold alive. breaking news this hour. a long-sought al qaeda figure has been killed by u.s. forces in somalia. this is an fbi wanted poster showed wanted posters. barbara starr, our pentagon correspondent is joining me now. barbara, this is something who
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dates back all the way to the bombing of the u.s. embassies in east africa. how long has the fbi been looking for him? >> they've been looking for him for years, deborah, and they're very pleased to final have this case resolved. in fact, a short time ago secretary of state of state hillary clinton said the killing of him was, quote, a significant killing of al qaeda. he was the architect of those 1998 embassy bombings in kenya a and he was responsible for other attacks throughout east africa. in fact, the u.s. wanted him so bad that in 2007 the u.s. military launched a covert air strike into somalia, tried to get him. they failed. there is no more risky pace possibly on earth than to put u.s. troops inside somalia. it was that kind of risk they were willing to go to back then
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to try and get him it. is said that he was killed in the last day or so by somali forces when he tried to flee a somali police checkpoint. now, did the somali police have some tip-off he was coming? who knows. but the u.s. takes them at their word that they got him. topping the list of al qaeda concerns for the united states. it's in a very rough neighborhood, of course, right next door to yemen. there is a very rising active al qaeda affiliate that's close. tuff neighborhood. it's a place that the u.s. would like to get a handle on these al qaeda operatives. today, one mark for the success column. deborah? >> barbara, is there any suggestion that there was either some sort of plan under way or because of his presence there, al qaeda is or was getting stronger and stronger? because obviously this is key. it's not just somebody who was
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wanted in a past attack but somebody who could have been wanted in a future attack as well. >> they're describing him as a key operational plane, essentially perhaps the head of al qaeda in east africa in the somalia region, in the horn of africa. the cia director leon panetta testified just this week that inside sew mall yeah was on the rise, that they had perhaps hundreds of foreign fighters at their disposal and that they were looking to get affiliated across the water there with al qaeda in yemen. so if you put these two countries together, which are both simply in terrible shape, essentially have collapsing or no central government, rising al qaeda organizations, this becomes the kind of threat that is of great concern to the united states, the possibility that they can recruit individuals to come to the u.s. and launch attacks.
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panetta even indicated this week that both the cia and u.s. military covert operatives are very much at work on the problem of al qaeda in somalia. deborah? >> all right. barbara starr, thank you very much. clearly nobody wants to see both of those organizations linking up together making them stronger. hopefully this undermines that effort. barbara starr, thanks so much. the month of may turned out to be the most dangerous and deadly for afghan civilians in four years. a report shows 368 afghan civilians were killed last month by extremist attacks or other world violence. several nato members also died last month. this story is just in to cnn. top democratic leaders are now calling on congressman anthony weiner to resign. he recently admitted to sending lewd suggestive messages to several women and admitted to
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twittering with a teen age girl in delaware. dana bash is on the phone. dana, it has now been stepped up a notch. what's going on? >> it has been stepped up several notches. we have been reporting that there's been great unhappiness and anger at anthony weiner behind the scenes by the democratic leadership but they have been reluctant to stay he should step down until now. i am told there were private conversations with the democratic leader nancy pelosi and another one, steve israel, a fellow new yorker of anthony weiner's both privately urged him to resign, saying it's now time to resign, so did debbie watson schultz, all in a very coordinated fashion, one after the other. let me read to you nancy pelosi's statement. congressman weiner has the love of his family, the confidence of
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his constituents and the recognition that he needs help. i urge congressman weiner to seek that help without the pressures of being a member of congress. it wasn't that long ago that they kind of said that this is his deal, debbie watson schultz in particular who is also a fellow dnc chair and fellow congresswoman, she called this a personal matter. not anymore. the reason they're saying it in a statement, i'm being told, privately is it is insurmountable, a distraction and a final straw for these leaders were the reports that we've been reporting all day that anthony weiner had a relationship through twitter with a 17-year-old girl in delaware. now he is saying very clearly they were not inappropriate at all or indecent, but that was,
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i'm told, the final straw. what will anthony weiner do? that's a good question. we have call and e-mailed his office. >> what's more is that the longer he holds on, the longer this becomes really an issue for the democrats. you think of the. >> rob: chris lee, a picture of him got out. he resigned, the story was over. it ended. this has now lasted really more than two weeks. for democrats, it's clear, simply want this over. they want to take it out from congress and at least handle it privately where frankly it won't get the kind of attention, correct? >> exactly. the thing is this has lasted from their perspective way too long and it has. ended. the stories have kept coming on. and earlier this week they reported there was a stepped up effort privately and publicly to get anthony weener to reside by some of his senior colleagues in the house. that did not work. he said very clearly publicly and i'm being told privately that he wasn't going to resign.
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he got a little help with the fact there was a poll that came out in his very own district. his own district, 56% of them said he should resign. >> clearly it wasn't survivabls. >> he's still there. he hasn't resigned either. these three people, and they're good friends of his, they're saying -- >> step away. dana bash, thanks a million. we really appreciate your bringing that to us today. well, the court's now in recess until monday in the florida murder trial of casey anthony. this morning several expert witnesses have taken the stand. pretty compelling testimony. they were talking about the duct tape that was found around caylee anthony's mouth. tell us a little bit more. >> it was some very gruesome testimony today, deborah. they had not only the duct tape
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but a bug expert who was brought to the stand that talked about all the flies that were in the casey anthony's car trunk. there were flies around. take a listen what he had to say. >> a few days. the body couldn't have been in the truong of the car for too long because of the progression of the decomposition of the body. the body had to be removed and placed out. it could have initially been placed where it was finally found and it had to be quite -- quite fast. >> now, deb rarks casey's lead attorney in this case, jose baez, disagrees with that expert opinion. he has his own expert. he'll bring that up in about a week when he's going to be presenting his side of the case. >> and, sean, has the
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prosecution been able to determine without question that casey anthony during the period when those flies were in the back of the car actually drove that vehicle or is connected to that vehicle in some way? >> reporter: you know, casey anthony had custody of that car, she would drive it all around. she would drive it to the amscot was one area where it was eventually found. casey had the car at that time. prosecutors believe she put the body in the car, didn't know what to do with it and eventually they took the body from the car and put it in the woods where it decomposed with all the trash. >> clearly she was very emotional during the trial and the thought of having some sort of a body decomposing in the back of a vehicle, especially if, in fact, it is her daughter, she broke down on the stand -- she broke down listening to all the testimony today. sean lavin, thankins so much. the european justice ruled
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against france. france faces fines for failing to protect which species. was it horses, wolves, ham sters, eagles? i'll have the answer on the other side of the break.
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only a few hundred european hamsters remain in a small enclave of france. they need to do a better job of protecting their breegd sites and rests places. now a look at top international headlines. it's a celebration fit for a mon amp in london today. queen elizabeth ii turned 85 in april. they officially observe her birthday in june when it's much nicer. plenty of dukes, duchesses, princes and princesses were in attendance. chavez is recovering from surgery. they say the surgery went well. leon panetta is in pakistan today. he's urging pakistani efforts to step up efforts to hunt militants in pakistan. and if you're looking for a new job, check this out. are you looking for a higher salary or a better work life,
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sas, the software company. more than 400,000 people filed for unemployment first time this week yet millions are still looking for full-time work. while any avail jobs sound promising, watch out there. money experts are joining us right now. hello, everyone. this is just outrageous. >> hi, deb. >> hey, there. this is outrageous. people just preying on folks who are in desperate conditions. what should people know? >> it's sort of like kicking your own dog, you know? they aren't down low enough. let's just kick them right over the edge. >> you know, there are 15 million americans who aren't working, deb, but there are plenty hard at work trying to scam people at a very, very difficult time with a lot of these employment scams which we'll talk about. it's unbelievable what people can do to people. >> now, is it happening online? first of all, what's the first thing? you should not be hired without
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an interview. that's got to be the first red flag. >> absolutely. i think about it. you know you're wonderful. but who in their right mind knows you're wonderful if they've never met you before. without sitting down to discuss your criurriculum vitae wrrks you've been, what you've done, it's insanity. >> this is want ads, any job, any source. >> most of it is done online. >> we've seen this happen when it comes to scams. people might be saying pay us a fee and we'll help place you. that is something else people should be aware of, startup fees, right? >> absolutely, deb. we're not say iing all of them. >> but then you've blown a piece of a franchise if you're -- >> as opposed to getting
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scammed. we've got a lot of e-mails to our website and that is people are asked to send their money overseas. sayonara. >> that's very hard to track down, overseas. >> it's gone. >> it's gone. another issue people have to be aware of is that if a company doesn't provide references, for example, explain that to me. >> well, if you're doing a one-on-one interview or even if you're just responding back and forth over the internet and you can't seem to find any information about this company, you ask for references because you want to make sure you're actually working with a led legitimate company that doesn't have one foot in a bankruptcy court and another foot on a banana peel.
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squlould reconsider accepting any position where a company won't tell you about itself. >> you have to do your due diligence. >> yes, you do. >> another thing. unsolicited e-mails because if you're desperate and you get something, you may say, oh, this is my chance, my shot. what do you have to be aware of? >> not only unsolicited e-mail from companies that don't even know you but sometimes from companies that you may recognize their names because there are a lot of smart people out there, smart scammers who are designing their websites to look very, very much like the legitimate websites of companies. so be very, very careful. if you question something in an e-mail unsolicited, call the company and ask them to send it. >> it's just common sense. there are anywhere between 15 and 18 million americans looking for employment, what are the odds that this company just happened to find you and your e-mail address. >> sluchl and then the last two
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really, it's getting compensation that's way above what the job demands and basically not getting something in writing. those are the last two people have to be aware of, correct? >> yes. quick story on that overcompensation. my daughter during the internet craze, she and her girlfriend were both offered edits positions, an internet start-up firm. $100,000 to make spelling corrections. >> i don't think so. >> my daughter said, you know what? that's not worth $100,000. she didn't take the jochblt her friend did. she was unemployed three months late sneer be very careful. hopefully we'll save people heartache during difficult times. >> thank you, deb. >> thank you, deb, nice to see you. >> you can receive a free copy of the dolans financial news letter by requesting it online
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to and see the various organizations that will accept your donations. and there's lots of fascination with sarah palin, but who is she really? 24,000 pages of her e-mails when she was governor alaska may give us a pretty insightful glimpse. we'll take you there for a live update in just a few minutes.
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a new immigration law is said to be the toughest in the country takes effect in alabama in september. the governor signed it into law thursday. among other things the law requires police to run immigration status checks on anyone stopped for any reason if they can't immediately prove they're here legally. it will also force them to check the residency of every student. and the focus today in casey anthony's murder trial, evidence collected near her daughter's remains and her car. the bug expert said larvae and
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flies found in the trunk of anthony's car fit the theory that a body was left in the car but don't prove it. an anonymous ebay leader wants to do much. he paid $2.6 million. a charity is benefitting from the auction. the big job of getting sarah palin's eames happened just over 24 hours ago. these are e-mails she wrote while she was governor. more than 2,400 pages are filled with chatter. cnn's drew griffin has been combing through them since their release. some interesting e-mails involving the oil giant exxon. tell us about it. >> reporter: yeah, a little different twist than what you might think about sarah palin and quote/unquote big e-mails.
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from the e-mails we find she's not afraid to fight big oil and she's tang them on many times as governor. in this e-mail she's talking about a $500 million settlement that exxon was still fighting. she said, please have one of your folks draft a short letter to exxon encouraging them to pay the $500 million. we need to be on the record telling them to pay up, end this thing, end this miss richl and then, deb, she said, we're doing a presser on it, kind of press it. she says to a staffer, please do a press owner it. the staffer says, i'm on it. and sarah palin says, thanks. can you believe they haven't agreed to end this thing? the staffer says, come on. it's e it it's exxon.
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that's july of 2008 iechlts showing the governor being a governor. also there's a little pettiness, sarah palin trying to send draft letters to the editor that she has somebody else send in her behest trying to cover up some issue or that issue but mostly it's a hard-working governor. deb, what's very interesting overall, as you look at the first two, two and a half years of her governorship, how acce accessible she was to the media. she doesn't really turn down many requests at all talking about polar bears to her son born with down syndrome to gas and oil exploration and taxes. and then as we know, once she becomes the vice president nominee, the mccain campaign really clamped down on her access to the media and then she became part of that fox news cocoon where she wouldn't really talk to anybody but the so-called friendly media. so it's very interesting to see in these first two and a half years of her administration how
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open and accessible and downright friendly she was. >> absolutely. because there really was a shift where she became hostile really toward the mainstream media in which she gave a different name to. is there any suggestion we're going to see any e-mails that follow her governorship or is that just the ones that have been -- that we would have access to? >> reporter: well, there is a request under way for the remaining of her term. remember, she quit her term early. but we and other news organizations have asked for the rest of the e-mails that only cover her years as governor, but certainly that portion which she was running for vice president and then when she came back to alaska to continue her governorship and see how she was then. we're still waiting for it. it took two and a half years, three years to get this from alaska. we're still waiting. >> thanks a million. well, cnn is hosting a
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republican presidential hopefuls for a debate in new hampshire on monday night. it may come at a good time for newt gingrich. he's getting ready to restart his cam pain after the sudden resignation of his top staffers. paul steinba >> reporter: it was just thursday that some of the top staffers, aides, advisers to the campaign, they quit. they jumped ship. why? they had major differences about how much time he was spending on the cam pair and raising campaign cash fund raigz. gingrich says he's committed. he'll do whatever it takes. he has the most approved on monday night right here in new hampshire with the other six. >> did the staffers feel that his heart wasn't in it for some reason?
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>> i think they felt he wasn't doing what most candidates do which is basically spending 24/7 campaigning, making calls, talking to contributors. remember gingrich came back from an overseas cruise with his wife and they felt maybe he wasn't committed. two of those top staffers were also major advisers to rick perry. they helped him to his re-election last year. now there is talk that perry is considering a bid for republican nomination. now that these two advisers are no logger with newt gingrich, keep your eyes on him. >> there's a chance they may go toward a campaign for them. is there anybody else that's ready to jump into the race? it's still a little bit new? >> yes. in fact, one of those people is jon huntsman. former governor of utah,
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recent recently a u.s. ambassador to china. he's right here in new hampshire campaigning this weekend. our candy crowley, our chief political correspondent, she teamed up with him last night. he tell her he will announce his intentions to seek the presidency in a week and a half. you can hear the entire interview. we'll have another candidate soon enough. >> and it's going to be very interesting to see the debates, where everybody stands on the issues and how they're being defined at that early stage of the race. paul steinhauser, thanks so much. we're going to check in with you a little later on today. and don't forget to tune in monday night at 8:00 for the republican presidential debate in new hampshire. several candidates will be taking part. john king will be the moderator. ] [ male announcer ] want to pump up your gas mileage? come to meineke for our free fuel-efficiency check and you'll money. my choice. my meineke.
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>> and as if he didn't have new, new worries for congressman anthony wooern. house speaker nancy pelosi, dnc chairman deborah wassermann schultz and steve israel are all calling for weiner to step aside. this comes as they're calling
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for a new investigation against wooern. jason carroll is in the congressman's home district in queens, new york. jason, it's looking bleak. >> reporter: yeah, it's going to be have interesting to see what happens in the next 24 or 48 hours now that you have top democrats coming out and saying it's time for the congressman to come out and resign. as i spoke to him earlier, he said nothing has changed in terms of his fans, congressman weiner telling me he has no plans to step down. he also defended himself when asked about the sort of online communication he had with the teenage girl from delaware. i also asked him about that. you'll recall basically there was a teenage girl from delaware who followed him on twitter after he came to her high school, spoke to them, she followed him. she told him there was no
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inappropriate contact between the two of them. congressman weiner also reiterated that when i spoke to him this morning. he also talked about a number of other issues. take a listen. >> i just want to get for the record here about the 17-year-old girl because you know that's what a number of people are talking about at this point. i mean in terms of this 17-year-old -- have you had any contact with her? >> we put out a statement on that. she's spoken. i think that record is pretty clear. >> for the record just coming from you, can you -- >> nothing -- careful. nothing explicit. nothing indecent. nothing inappropriate. >> i want to ask -- 56% of your constituents say you should not resign and are supporting you. >> i've made some mistakes, i've acknowledged it. i'm trying to make it up to my wife and my family, but i also have to make it clear to my
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constituents i want to get back to work for them. not easy to do in this environment but i'm doing the bestky. >> you've been reaching out to a number of people. can you tell me what advice -- have you spoken to former president clinton? >> you know, look. i've made serious mistakes here and i have to redeem myself and i'm going to try to get back to work. they were personal failings and i'm trying not to let them get in the way of my professional work. >> reporter: once again you can hear the congressman admitting to the faults and mistakes he made. he wants to get back to work, saying he wants to do that on monday. but, again, debbie, now that you've got top democrats calling for his resignation, it's going to be have interesting to see what happens over the next 24 to 48 hours. debbie? >> jason carroll, thank you very much. the drumbeat is certainly getting a lot longer. the name anthony weiner is mud
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this weekend, nobody is denying that. the question is whether this is permanent. scandals pass, replaced by other scandals. let's face it. people have short memories. but today congressman weiner's political horizon looks rather bleak. peter, you're joining us. it's interesting to hear congressman weiner say i have to redeem myself. is that even a possibility? >> it's a very remote possibility right now. what's very interesting is to see his demeanor now versus two, three weeks ago when he was heckling the news media saying nothing happened, nothing happened. the biggest problem he's going have is any commercial campaign that comes out against him or a problem, they're going to say how do we know you're telling the truth. if he had come out originally and said here's what happened, i screwed up, it would be over. keep in mind this is not a
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twitter problem, facebook problem or social media problem, it was a stupidity problem. there are certain lines he crossed, whether it was twitter, social network or whatever it may be. >> it's difficult when you have pictures all over the internet. >> indeed. >> you do crisis internet. you help with people's brands. anthony weiner comes to you. he says, how do you fix this. what do you tell him? >> to be honest, at this point, he is a young guy. he has a future in front of him or had a future. quite honestly he should step down. it gives people a chance to forget. his wife is pregnant, will be giving birth in six or seven months, which is going to brick this back out. he should do like other new yorkers do, stay back, they come back and get tv shes.
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they do forgive and forget. he's not letting us forget first. the only thing that can save him is pretty wide nation -- act that takes him out of news, an act of terrorism or something that takes him out of news. that's not happening. every day it's getting more and more difficult. >> in this particular case, the mea culpa didn't work because there's so much out. there it's never-ending. do you think that his wife as you mention and the baby will smookts the process, make him perhaps a more sympathetic character or is that just not possible? >> again, everyone screws up. what we love in this country, is the only thing we love rippinging someone to shreds is building them back up. but before they do that they have to apologize, admit what they've done and get out of the public eye for a while. the bigger question other people are asking is, well, if he's
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still blames this on twitter and the internet, this is the marijuana responsibility for making laws that, you know, regulate the internet, yet he doesn't even know how to use it. so it really becomes a question of can we trust him ever again. it was a little different when president clinton went on tv and said i did have a relationship with monica lewinsky. he was the man in charge. they tried to impeach him and it didn't work. that shut it down. if more people are called for him to resign, it's very, very hard to ignore the drumbeat. if i were him, step back, come back in a while. >> peter shankman, thanks for your time. we appreciate it. violent storms like this one in illinois can pop up and create havoc. ahead, bonnie schneider has the forecast and important tips for
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you on,000 stay safe when the weather takes a sudden turn. and while that leaves a little room for balls and tees, it doesn't leave room for much else. there's no room left for deadlines or conference calls. not a single pocket to hold the stress of the day, or the to-do list of tomorrow. only 14 clubs pick up the right one and drive it right down the middle of pure michigan. your trip begins at we're going to head on into the interview. evan, sandy . . . evan .. what pushed you toward the explorer? it was less expensive. better technology inside. there was stuff that we have in our car that i didn't even know existed. how does your music gear fit in there? it fits perfectly. i mean, i got a keyboard, acoustic guitar, merchandise, cds to sell and it all just fits like a nice game of tetras. what would you say to a friend who's skeptical about buying a ford. do you want to borrow my keys.
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well, it's that time of year when we want to head outdoors
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and enjoy the weather. but be warned. storms can come seemingly out of nowhere. let's bring in bonnie schneider. they can pose a really big threat. i was supposed to be in new york. there was supposed to be a black eyed peas concert. it was shut down. it was scary. >> typically in june, july, august, we see lightning strikes. there are things you can do to stay safe. take a look at pictures. as deb mentioned, these can come with rain and, of course, thunderstorms. but sometimes you get bolts from the blue. it's always a good idea to have your noaa weather radio. here are some tips and facts about lightning that you may not know or maybe it's a refresher course. overall, june and july are the worst times for lightning. lightning strikes in the u.s. are about 25 million every year injured hundreds of people and killing nearly 60 people. if you can hear thunder, that means lightning is close enough
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to strike. you want to seek shelter immediately. this is important to know when you're out camping. know where your shelter is. it's not a convertible. it's not the tires that keep you safe. it's the metal casing. keep that in mind. today we're looking at the threat of lightning right here across parts of the midwest and into the south and plain states. we have severe weather advisories popping up into parts of oklahoma. we're also looking for a little bit of rain popping up here. and some of the rain is causing a little bit of trouble. luckily not really the threat of severe weather causing too many delays. across san francisco, baltimore, chicago, light winds in devastation although i do anticipate that to increase. another huge weather story we're tracking is the threat of the fires burning over arizona. you see the winds are picking
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up. the temperatures are skyrocketing. and with the low level humidity all of that will persist. the winds will pick up in arizona. the forecast here is not good. the rest of the weekend or country looks hot, but okay. deb? >> i don't think i've ever seen lightning move horizontal. thanks. well, in alabama, a crackdown on illegal immigration, the state's new law said to be the toughest in the nation. we'll go live to birmingham for some reaction. transitions adapt to changing light so you see your whole day comfortably and conveniently while protecting your eyes from the sun. ask your eyecare professional which transitions lenses are right for you. woman: are you a vsp member? your satisfaction with transitions lenses is guaranteed. visit or ask your vsp doctor for details. twenty-five thousand mornings, give or take,
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a new legal immigration law that's said to be the toughest in the nation is on the books in alabama and it takes effect september 1st. among other things it requires the state to check the citizenship of every child who enrolls in the school. while supporters defend it, many say it's racist. >> reporter: it's apparently having a chilling effect already. some say the message for immigrants, legal or otherwise, is you're not welcome here. >> many are afraid. they're planning to go back to where they come from. >> reporter: some immigrants are particularly concerned about the clause of the law that makes it a criminal offense to provide
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transportation to an illegal alien. >> you've got a friend. you never know if they're legal or illegal. if they go in your car, you never know. >> reporter: the legislation was signed into law the week by alabama governor robert bentley, a republican. he says he's confident the legislation is constitutional. >> the sponsors of this bill really worked hard on that. they looked at laws across the country and they looked at the challenges across the country and they did an excellent job in evaluating those. you know that some of those have already been upheld. some of the arizona bills have already been upheld. >> but hispanic leaders say they're worried about discrimination and illegal prosnielg we think this opens up for somebody to be profiled. anybody who looks a certain way or speak as certain way is at risk. we're talking about reasonable suspicion and what does that
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really mean? >> ray, the owner of three grocery stores, is concerned about the clause where employers can't hire undocumented workers. >> it's not good for nobody. >> reporter: it makes it mandatory to check the citizenship of the students and law enforcement officers to check the legal status of a person to loolly be in the country. >> for me i think there is cause for concern which is why i'm supportive of the bill because i want to make sure -- we want to make sure that people that are here are coming here legally. >> and we're live here in alabaster, alabama, at a grocery story that indicators to the hispanic community. a lot of customers are concerned with how this law is going to be implemented. we talked to authorities in jefferson county and they tell me that their jails are
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overpopulated already and they lack the resources and personnel to enforce the new law. deb? >> well, rafael, it's interesting. what is happening is people are going to make illegal immigrants pariahs, outcasts, they're going to be frozen out. it's really creating an us against them, no? >> reporter: what people are telling me is they're concerned about what kind of effect this law is going to have. for example, you can get in trouble if you give somebody a ride and that person is unauthorized to be in this country. there's also a clause of the law that mandates that school districts inquire about the citizenship of their students. so that part of the law is making a lot of parents very nervous. and even though the law doesn't go into effect until septembe t septemberst, 1st, there's already a chill region report.
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